The Fire Chief

Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Episodes
Episodes



Aug 4, 2026
Aug 4, 2026
50 min
In this compelling episode, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Colonel Michael Kloepper, Director of Leader Development and Character at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. Drawing on decades of experience leading soldiers in combat and developing future military leaders, Colonel Kloepper shares timeless leadership principles that translate remarkably well to healthcare and physician leadership.
Lee and Mike explore how effective leaders make high-stakes decisions under uncertainty, the role of humility in leadership growth, and why influence ultimately becomes more powerful than authority. The conversation highlights practical lessons on building trust, avoiding overconfidence bias, developing psychological safety, and shaping organizational culture through everyday actions. Colonel Kloepper also offers valuable insights into developing future leaders, reminding us that leadership is measured not only by the decisions we make today, but by the people we prepare to lead tomorrow.
Aug 4, 2026
50 min



Jul 21, 2026
Jul 21, 2026
50 min
In this thought-provoking episode, host Lee Scheinbart welcomes Dr. James "Jim" Lindberg, Chief Medical Officer, physician executive, board-certified coach, and an incredible essayist on physician leadership. Drawing from decades of experience across clinical practice, academic medicine, and executive leadership, Jim challenges physicians to rethink many of the assumptions they hold about leadership, organizations, and professional influence.
Lee and Jim explore why so much physician frustration is rooted not in difficult people, but in misunderstood organizational structures. Together they examine the critical distinctions between physician buy-in and true engagement, physician leaders and physician executives, presence and governance, and leadership, relationship, and structural problems. The conversation offers a practical framework for diagnosing organizational challenges while encouraging physicians to develop the "structural literacy" needed to move beyond adapting to healthcare systems and toward helping architect them. Ultimately, Dr. Lindberg reminds us that the future of healthcare will belong to physician leaders who are willing to engage boldly, think systemically, and earn the opportunity to shape the organizations in which they serve.
Jul 21, 2026
50 min



Jul 7, 2026
How Do You Build Relationships?
Jul 7, 2026
Jul 7, 2026
54 min
In this in-depth episode, host Lee Scheinbart welcomes retired U.S. Navy submarine commander Robert "Navy Bob" Roncska for a conversation that bridges military command and physician leadership. Drawing on decades of experience leading nuclear submarine crews, Bob shares practical lessons on building trust, developing people, and creating high-performing teams through genuine relationships rather than authority alone.
Lee and Bob explore the principles of Leader-Member Exchange (LMX) and discuss how leaders move beyond constantly "fighting fires" by investing in the people they serve. Through memorable stories from life aboard a submarine and while carrying the nuclear football for President George W. Bush, Bob illustrates how psychological safety, purposeful communication, and authentic care can transform organizational culture and improve performance. The conversation challenges leaders to discover their own purpose while helping others find theirs, reminding us that leadership is ultimately measured by the lives we influence and the legacy we leave behind. By the end of the conversation, listeners will discover that some of the most enduring lessons in physician leadership come not from a hospital—but from hundreds of feet beneath the ocean's surface.
Jul 7, 2026
54 min



Jun 23, 2026
How To Contain The Heat
Jun 23, 2026
Jun 23, 2026
44 min
In this thoughtful episode, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Vidhya Prakash, physician executive and author of The Leadership Learning Curve: A Woman Physician's Journey as a Chief Medical Officer. Dr. Prakash shares candid reflections on her evolution from an infectious disease physician to Chief Medical Officer and the leadership lessons learned along the way. Lee and Vidhya explore the transition from clinical expert to enterprise leader, the importance of adaptive leadership, and why effective leaders must learn to manage tension by containing the heat rather than eliminate it. The conversation highlights practical strategies for building trust, breaking down silos, listening deeply, and recognizing when leadership requires a shift in role or perspective. Dr. Prakash also discusses the value of journaling, embracing failure, and viewing leadership as a continual process of learning, resilience, and growth. Ultimately, Dr. Prakash earns the distinction of becoming the ultimate Chief Firewoman!
Jun 23, 2026
44 min



Jun 9, 2026
The One Stop Shop for Chief Medical Officers
Jun 9, 2026
Jun 9, 2026
40 min
In this critical episode, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Nicholas "Nick" Testa, Chief Clinical Officer at Sentact and former Chief Medical Officer for California at CommonSpirit Health. Nick shares his journey from emergency physician to healthcare executive and discusses his passion for improving healthcare by helping CMOs do their job with the proper tools and support.
Lee and Nick explore the foundations of healthcare improvement through safety, quality, and ultimately the patient experience. They also explore the real purpose of executive rounding and the importance of building trust before driving organizational change. Dr. Testa offers practical insights on physician accountability, peer review, patient safety, and why healthcare transformation ultimately depends on relationships, credibility, and human connection. The conversation also highlights the impactful support that Sentact provides to the Chief Medical Officer through its educational experience, The Senior Leader Forum, along with its variety of leadership tools needed to improve healthcare at scale.
Jun 9, 2026
40 min



May 26, 2026
Be Comfortable With Being Uncomfortable
May 26, 2026
May 26, 2026
48 min
In this transformational episode, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Chad Perlyn, Dean and Chief Medical Officer at Nova Southeastern University. Lee and Chad explore how physicians can transition from clinical roles to leadership positions within healthcare systems. Dr. Perlyn tells the tale of his "hard right turn" toward leadership and also shares his journey from pediatric plastic surgery to becoming a healthcare leader, highlighting key experiences and mindset shifts essential for success. The conversation delves into the role of mentorship and coaching in leadership development, as well as overcoming challenges and identity shifts during transitions. Emphasizing the importance of curiosity, humility, and honest communication, Dr. Perlyn provides strategies for developing leadership skills and navigating complex healthcare systems. Finally, the two leaders also discuss the importance of cultivating leadership awareness early in medical school through a unique format; a book club!
May 26, 2026
48 min



May 12, 2026
May 12, 2026
34 min
In this powerful episode of The Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages in an insightful conversation with Carey Goryl, CEO of AAPPR, a seasoned leader in the world of physician recruitment. As head of the Association for Advancing Physician and Provider Recuitment (AAPPR), Carey provides leadership to the only organization committed to redefining recruitment and retention through its membership of physician and provider recruitment leaders and others who influence recruitment, onboarding and retention. Discover how healthcare organizations can transform physician recruitment and retention strategies by focusing on long-term culture, stability, and leadership by listening to the robust conversation. This episode explores innovative approaches to foster loyalty, autonomy, and effective onboarding for physicians, emphasizing the importance of organizational alignment and strategic planning. It all starts at your front door...
May 12, 2026
34 min



Apr 28, 2026
What Leadership Is Really About.
Apr 28, 2026
Apr 28, 2026
41 min
In this heartfelt, face-to-face interview for The Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages in a profound conversation with Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling US Army (ret), author of the recently published book, If I Don't Return: A Father's Wartime Journal. Together they explore their shared passion, research, and results in leadership development and the impact of context in leadership teaching. The conversation covers key concepts like trust, self-awareness, and adapting leadership to changing environments. In the second half of the interview, they turn to the recent publication and Mark offers timeless lessons on character, the scars of leadership, and the value of service. The two compare profound parallels between the military and medicine, and in a moving moment near the end of the discussion, Mark offers his deeply personal reflections on why he wrote the book. Finally, the two gentlemen conclude that leadership is, at its essence, all about love.
Apr 28, 2026
41 min

The Fire Chief: The Chief Medical Officer Podcast
If you are a CMO in health care, this is the podcast for you. Every day there is a fire burning in health care. Oftentimes, it is the CMO that has to face the flames. Want to know what type of heat CMOs deal with on a regular basis? What unexpected dumpster fires have they encountered along the way? How they ascended into the toughest (& best!) job in healthcare? What leadership skills have helped them along the way?
Tune in to The Fire Chief!

Your Host
Dr. Lee Scheinbart practiced Hematology/Oncology for over 20 years and after directing his local cancer institute, he went on to serve as VPMA and later CMO at Health First Hospitals in East Central Florida. Currently he serves as Chief Health Affairs Officer for the Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine. He is also Assistant Professor of Leadership Development at the College and the author of The CMO's Financial Primer, The Vital Handbook for Physician Executives. Dr. Scheinbart is also the Principal Instructor for the CMO Academy at the American Association for Physician Leadership.





