The Fire Chief

Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Episodes
Episodes



Mar 4, 2025
Mar 4, 2025
46 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Robert Underwood, Chief Medical Officer of San Juan Regional Medical Center in the Four Corners of the United States. They discuss Dr. Underwood's diverse background, including his military service, transition to medicine, and the importance of physician involvement in healthcare legislation. Dr. Underwood shares insights on leadership, decision-making in healthcare, and the personal challenges he has faced, including a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis. The conversation emphasizes the value of physician leaders in shaping healthcare policy and improving patient care. In this conversation, Drs. Scheinbart and Underwood delve into the complexities of leadership in healthcare, the distinction between management and leadership, and the necessity for curiosity and compassion in effective leadership. The dialogue highlights the evolving landscape of healthcare leadership, its increasing financialization and the need for continuous learning and adaptation.
Mar 4, 2025
46 min



Feb 25, 2025
We're In The World Of Superlatives
Feb 25, 2025
Feb 25, 2025
44 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Mohsin Shabahang, Chief Medical Officer at WellSpan Health. They discuss Dr. Shabahang's journey from surgical oncology to healthcare leadership and how the healthcare system faces significant challenges related to compensation models. Dr. Shabahang advocates for a balance between clinical productivity and other contributions and states, “external validations are valuable but should not define one's worth.” Healthcare leadership is a marathon and Dr. "Mo" will share what it takes to run the race.
Feb 25, 2025
44 min



Feb 18, 2025
We Need Truth Tellers
Feb 18, 2025
Feb 18, 2025
49 min
In this blistering hot episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Doug Salvador, Chief Medical Officer at ATW Health Solutions and former CMO/CQO at BayState Medical Center. Dr. Salvador shares his journey from a first-generation American to becoming a physician leader, emphasizing the need for truth telling in healthcare and the crushing burden of responsibility carried by CMOs in today's healthcare landscape. He introduces the “CAUTI game” to the listeners and stumps the host, Dr. Lee Scheinbart while demonstrating how to effectively communicate to the Board of Trustees in the process. The conversation highlights one of the single most pressing issues in healthcare (aka dumpster fire), which is the financialization of medicine and the need for CMOs to advocate for patients and communities.
Feb 18, 2025
49 min



Feb 11, 2025
It's Like Being An Intern All Over Again
Feb 11, 2025
Feb 11, 2025
51 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Gil Padula, the Chief Medical Officer at Bon Secours Mercy Health. They discuss Dr. Padula's journey from being a radiation oncologist to a CMO, the challenges faced in healthcare leadership, and the importance of effective communication especially in the physician lounge!! Dr. Padula shares his insights on preparing for his leadership role describing that at times it as though he is an Intern all over again. He emphasizes the need for effective communication, patient experience, and the balance between his personal and professional life. Dr. Padula also shares insights on the significance of maintaining clinical practice (and carrying his medical school essay with him as a reminder) to stay grounded in the realities of patient care.
Feb 11, 2025
51 min



Feb 4, 2025
Feb 4, 2025
40 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Kristin Mascotti, the newly appointed Market Chief Medical Officer for Greater Colorado and Kansas at Common Spirit Health. Dr. Mascotti shares her unique journey to becoming a CMO, highlighting her background in pathology and transfusion medicine, and her passion for quality management in healthcare. The conversation explores the evolution of physician leadership and the challenges faced by CMOs, including crisis management during the Ebola outbreak. Dr. Mascotti emphasizes the need for collaboration, COURAGE, and adaptability in leadership roles. In this conversation, Lee Scheinbart and Kristin Mascotti discuss the importance of collaboration, the need for balance in personal and professional life, and the significance of a clinical conscience in decision-making. The discussion also highlights the DYAD Leadership Certification Program (offered through AAPL) aimed at enhancing leadership skills among CMOs and CNOs. Listen to find out why it takes COURAGE and while it may not be hard to summon, it can be difficult to deploy.
Feb 4, 2025
40 min



Jan 28, 2025
Jan 28, 2025
40 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Elizabeth Warner, Chief Medical Officer at Cherry Health and co-author of Conversations Worth Having in Healthcare: Boost Satisfaction & Quality Using Appreciative Inquiry. They discuss the importance of leadership preparation, and the need for self-care and resilience in the role. Dr. Warner shares her journey to becoming a CMO with a focus on the significance of asking generative questions to foster improvement. The conversation highlights the value of mentorship, the importance of aligning personal and organizational values, and the ongoing need for growth and learning in leadership.
Jan 28, 2025
40 min



Jan 21, 2025
You Have Got to Learn the Vocabulary of the Job
Jan 21, 2025
Jan 21, 2025
38 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Rex Hoffman, Chief Medical Officer at Providence Holy Cross Medical Center and author of I Want to Be a Chief Medical Officer : Now What? They discuss Dr. Hoffman's journey to becoming a CMO, particularly the things he HAD to know before taking the role along with the importance of mentorship, and his efforts to write material for others to become a CMO. Dr. Hoffman shares insights on leadership styles, the significance of understanding healthcare finance, and the current issues facing the healthcare system. The conversation emphasizes the importance of communication, negotiation, and support for medical staff to create a positive work environment.
Jan 21, 2025
38 min



Jan 14, 2025
Deal With The Gray Or Else Go Sell Ice Cream
Jan 14, 2025
Jan 14, 2025
36 min
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Stephen Brass, the Chief Medical Executive at Harris Health. They discuss Dr. Brass's journey to becoming a CMO, the importance of mentorship, various leadership styles, and the challenges faced in executive decision-making. To be an effective leader you have to realize you MUST learn to deal with the gray and that you won't always make people happy (or else go sell ice cream)! The conversation also touches on the critical issues of physician burnout, the role of AI in healthcare, and the significance of optimizing peer review processes. Dr. Brass emphasizes the need for collaboration, feedback, agility, and adaptability in leadership, as well as the importance of addressing physician wellness to improve healthcare outcomes.
Jan 14, 2025
36 min

The Fire Chief: The Chief Medical Officer Podcast
If you are a CMO in health care, this is the podcast for you. Every day there is a fire burning in health care. Oftentimes, it is the CMO that has to face the flames. Want to know what type of heat CMOs deal with on a regular basis? What unexpected dumpster fires have they encountered along the way? How they ascended into the toughest (& best!) job in healthcare? What leadership skills have helped them along the way?
Tune in to The Fire Chief!

Your Host
Dr. Lee Scheinbart practiced Hematology/Oncology for over 20 years and after directing his local cancer institute, he went on to serve as VPMA and later CMO at Health First Hospitals in East Central Florida. Currently he serves as Chief Health Affairs Officer for the Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine. He is also Assistant Professor of Leadership Development at the College and the author of The CMO's Financial Primer, The Vital Handbook for Physician Executives. Dr. Scheinbart is also the Principal Instructor for the CMO Academy at the American Association for Physician Leadership.





