The Fire Chief

Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Leadership, Strategy, and Career Development for Chief Medical Officers and Physician Executives
The Fire Chief is the podcast for Chief Medical Officers and physician executives navigating leadership in today’s complex healthcare environment. Hosted by an authentic physician executive and leader, each episode delivers practical insights on strategy, governance, physician engagement, organizational performance, and career development—through real conversations with experienced leaders and experts.
If you’re building influence, leading clinical teams, shaping organizational decisions, or preparing for your next executive role, this show is your frontline briefing.
Episodes
Episodes



Nov 11, 2025
Nov 11, 2025
34 min
In this perceptive episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages in a deep conversation with Dr. Leo Spector, CEO of OrthoCarolina, about the evolving role of physician executives. They discuss the challenges and opportunities in transitioning from the OR and clinical roles to leadership positions, emphasizing the importance of empathy, humility, and intentionality in leadership. Dr. Spector shares deeply personal anecdotes and remarkable insights on how physicians can prepare for leadership roles, the misconceptions about physician executives, and the future of physician leadership.
Nov 11, 2025
34 min



Nov 4, 2025
Nov 4, 2025
44 min
In this insightful episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages in a deep conversation with Steve McGovern, President and CEO of McGovern Executive Search. They explore the evolving role of physicians as CEOs in healthcare, discussing the challenges and opportunities that come with this transition. Using recent publications and informal, but truthful responses from healthcare leaders, the discussion covers the importance of empathy, business acumen, and strategic thinking in leadership roles, as well as the impact of corporatization in medicine. The podcast explores how physicians need to avoid being typecast when seeking leadership roles and Steve shares insights from his extensive experience in executive search, highlighting the unique attributes physicians bring to leadership positions and the potential for more mission-driven leadership in healthcare.
Nov 4, 2025
44 min



Oct 28, 2025
Building Culture Through Coaching
Oct 28, 2025
Oct 28, 2025
43 min
In this dynamite episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Rawle “Tony” Seupaul, diehard U of Miami ‘Canes fan AND Chief Physician Executive at Carilion Clinic. They discuss the importance of physician leadership, the unique structure of Carilion Clinic, and the need for coaching and development in leadership roles. Dr. Seupaul shares his personal journey in developing leadership skills and the initiatives he has implemented to foster a culture of leadership development within the organization. The conversation also touches on the evolution of medical education and the importance of aligning departmental goals with institutional priorities. Oh yeah, and Dr. Seupaul’s intense desire for a UM-OSU Championship re-match. Serious like a Hurricane…
Oct 28, 2025
43 min



Oct 21, 2025
Patients Over Politics? Get Upstream
Oct 21, 2025
Oct 21, 2025
23 min
In this energetic episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Tina Shah, a devoted pulmonary and critical care physician and passionate Congressional candidate. They discuss Dr. Shah's journey in healthcare, her leadership philosophy, and her advocacy for healthcare reform. Dr. Shah shares her experience with burnout, the drive to help others, and the importance of getting upstream to change policy. Dr. Shah also stresses importance of having more physicians in Congress (and in all levels of government) to address the most pressing healthcare issues of our day.
Oct 21, 2025
23 min



Oct 14, 2025
How Leaders (Invite and) Make Change
Oct 14, 2025
Oct 14, 2025
46 min
In this profound and meaningful episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages with Deborah Rowland, a leader in organizational change and mindfulness. They discuss the importance of mindfulness in leadership, particularly in high-pressure environments like healthcare. Deborah emphasizes the need for leaders to confront reality without judgment and to understand the difference between what 'ought' to be and what 'is'. The conversation also explores the challenges leaders face and the importance of empathy and understanding in navigating these challenges. Deborah introduces the concept of 'institutional acupuncture', advocating for minimal yet impactful changes in organizations. The episode concludes with a reflection on the role of leaders as Sherpas, guiding others through difficult journeys.
Oct 14, 2025
46 min



Oct 7, 2025
What Crisis Requires
Oct 7, 2025
Oct 7, 2025
45 min
In this explosive episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart engages with Regina Phelps, a global expert in crisis management, to discuss the critical role of physician leaders in navigating crises within healthcare. They explore the differences between emergency response and crisis management, the challenges faced by healthcare systems, and the importance of effective communication and training. Regina emphasizes the need for self-care among healthcare leaders and the significance of enterprise resiliency in preparing organizations for unexpected events. The conversation highlights the necessity for boards to be involved in crisis management and the impact of malinformation on healthcare leadership.
Oct 7, 2025
45 min



Sep 30, 2025
Sep 30, 2025
46 min
In this witty episode of The Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Clarissa Barnes, former President and CEO of the American College of Physician Advisors and currently the Chief Medical Officer for Medicaid in South Dakota. They discuss the evolving role of physician advisors, the challenges and opportunities in healthcare leadership, and the impact of AI on the in UR/UM and denials. Dr. Barnes shares her journey from a family background in medicine to her current leadership roles, emphasizing the importance of understanding both clinical and administrative aspects of healthcare. The conversation also touches on how to embark on a physician leadership career as well as the significance of continuous learning and adaptation in the role of leader.
Sep 30, 2025
46 min



Sep 23, 2025
Arresting Doctors
Sep 23, 2025
Sep 23, 2025
45 min
In this off-world of an episode, host Lee Scheinbart launches into the remarkable career and educational journey of Dr. Daniel Handel, Vice President and Chief Medical Officer for the Central Area of Atrium Health. Dr. Handel, the primary editor of the definitive and groundbreaking textbook on healthcare administration for aspiring physicians, is now also the program director of the Healthcare Administration Leadership and Management (HALM) fellowship at Atrium. Lee and Dan explore a wide range of future facing topics for future CMOs, including teaching residents about workflows, a post-EHR ecosystem, and changes to administrative fellowships. Whether you're an aspiring leader or a seasoned professional, this episode offers valuable lessons on navigating the healthcare landscape of this world as we simultaneously prepare for the next one.
Sep 23, 2025
45 min

The Fire Chief: The Chief Medical Officer Podcast
If you are a CMO in health care, this is the podcast for you. Every day there is a fire burning in health care. Oftentimes, it is the CMO that has to face the flames. Want to know what type of heat CMOs deal with on a regular basis? What unexpected dumpster fires have they encountered along the way? How they ascended into the toughest (& best!) job in healthcare? What leadership skills have helped them along the way?
Tune in to The Fire Chief!

Your Host
Dr. Lee Scheinbart practiced Hematology/Oncology for over 20 years and after directing his local cancer institute, he went on to serve as VPMA and later CMO at Health First Hospitals in East Central Florida. Currently he serves as Chief Health Affairs Officer for the Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine. He is also Assistant Professor of Leadership Development at the College and the author of The CMO's Financial Primer, The Vital Handbook for Physician Executives. Dr. Scheinbart is also the Principal Instructor for the CMO Academy at the American Association for Physician Leadership.





