The Fire Chief

The Fire Chief podcast, hosted by Dr. Lee Scheinbart, brings you frontline, candid conversations about what its like to be a Chief Medical Officer at a time when the health care is on fire. And getting hotter all the time. Being a CMO is no small task and it takes intentional preparation, although some of it feels like a trial by fire. Becoming a CMO is like a career in firefighting. You start by going to firefighter school and you train and drill until you are ready to fight a fire. You put on the uniform day in and day out doing your job, maybe even becoming a squad leader or captain one day. And then, perhaps, you become a Fire Chief, or in this case, the Chief Medical Officer. This podcast is dedicated to the CMO.
Episodes
Episodes



Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Doctor vs Lawyer
Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
In this crazy episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Tim Norton, Chief Legal Officer at Augusta Health. They discuss the evolving role of Chief Medical Officers in healthcare, the importance of understanding legal frameworks, and the challenges posed by legislative changes, particularly regarding Medicaid. Tim shares insights on effective physician leadership, emphasizing the need for curiosity and the ability to make tough decisions. The conversation also touches on the concept of captive insurance and its relevance to healthcare systems. In this conversation, Tim Norton and Lee Scheinbart discuss the complexities of healthcare leadership, focusing on the decision-making processes of physician executives, the importance of advocacy, and the challenges faced in medical staff dynamics. They explore the legal oversight in healthcare, particularly the difficulties of navigating business decisions that may not align with personal beliefs. The conversation culminates in addressing the pressing issue of Medicaid and its implications for healthcare access, while also recognizing the dedication of healthcare leaders.



Tuesday Apr 01, 2025
Don't Get Trivialized!
Tuesday Apr 01, 2025
Tuesday Apr 01, 2025
In this remarkable episode, Dr. Stephen Klasko shares his journey from aspiring DJ to a prominent figure in healthcare innovation. He discusses the importance of patient-centered care, the evolving role of chief medical officers, and the impact of AI on the future of medicine. Klasko emphasizes the need for healthcare professionals to adapt to changing environments and redefine their roles to lead effectively in a transformative healthcare landscape. In this conversation, Stephen Klasko and Lee Scheinbart discuss the evolving roles of leadership in healthcare, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, the need for diverse perspectives, and the necessity for CMOs to avoid being trivialized. They explore how personal strengths and superpowers can shape effective leadership, the value of innovative thinking in healthcare delivery, and the critical need for a shift in "doctoring" paradigms to better prepare future medical professionals for the challenges ahead.



Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
A Moral Responsibility
Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
Tuesday Mar 25, 2025
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Brian Vartabedian, Chief Medical Officer at Texas Children's Hospital. They discuss Dr. Vartabedian's journey from medical school to leadership, the challenges of opening a new children's hospital, and the importance of addressing physician burnout. The conversation also explores the evolving role of physicians in the age of technology, the distinction between transactional and interactional care, and the moral responsibility of physicians to engage in public discourse about healthcare issues.



Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
This Is Fascinatingly Horrible
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Eric Bricker, Chief Medical Officer and founder of A Healthcare Z. They discuss Dr. Bricker's journey from a summer internship at the NIH to becoming a CMO, his experiences in healthcare billing, and the founding of Compass Professional Health Services. Dr. Bricker shares insights on the importance of financial literacy in healthcare, his motivation for creating educational videos, and the challenges faced by new physicians in understanding healthcare finance. In this conversation, Dr. Eric Bricker emphasizes the need for humility, effective communication, and project management skills for aspiring Chief Medical Officers. The discussion also touches on the pressing issue of healthcare affordability and the necessity for leaders to address it proactively.



Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
Don't Read The Comments
Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
Tuesday Mar 11, 2025
In this blazing episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Lara Johnson, Chief Medical Officer at Covenant Health in Lubbock, Texas which is experiencing an outbreak of measles. They discuss Dr. Johnson's journey back to her hometown, her experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the impact of both the virus and the media attention affecting her community. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by healthcare leaders, the importance of community commitment, and the impact of social media on caregivers. Dr. Johnson shares insights on leadership, crisis management, and the need for physician engagement and transparency in healthcare communication.



Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
The Complexity of Healthcare Is Not Obvious (To Them)
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Robert Underwood, Chief Medical Officer of San Juan Regional Medical Center in the Four Corners of the United States. They discuss Dr. Underwood's diverse background, including his military service, transition to medicine, and the importance of physician involvement in healthcare legislation. Dr. Underwood shares insights on leadership, decision-making in healthcare, and the personal challenges he has faced, including a diagnosis of Multiple Sclerosis. The conversation emphasizes the value of physician leaders in shaping healthcare policy and improving patient care. In this conversation, Drs. Scheinbart and Underwood delve into the complexities of leadership in healthcare, the distinction between management and leadership, and the necessity for curiosity and compassion in effective leadership. The dialogue highlights the evolving landscape of healthcare leadership, its increasing financialization and the need for continuous learning and adaptation.



Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
We're In The World Of Superlatives
Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
In this episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Mohsin Shabahang, Chief Medical Officer at WellSpan Health. They discuss Dr. Shabahang's journey from surgical oncology to healthcare leadership and how the healthcare system faces significant challenges related to compensation models. Dr. Shabahang advocates for a balance between clinical productivity and other contributions and states, “external validations are valuable but should not define one's worth.” Healthcare leadership is a marathon and Dr. "Mo" will share what it takes to run the race.



Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
We Need Truth Tellers
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
In this blistering hot episode of the Fire Chief Podcast, host Lee Scheinbart interviews Dr. Doug Salvador, Chief Medical Officer at ATW Health Solutions and former CMO/CQO at BayState Medical Center. Dr. Salvador shares his journey from a first-generation American to becoming a physician leader, emphasizing the need for truth telling in healthcare and the crushing burden of responsibility carried by CMOs in today's healthcare landscape. He introduces the “CAUTI game” to the listeners and stumps the host, Dr. Lee Scheinbart while demonstrating how to effectively communicate to the Board of Trustees in the process. The conversation highlights one of the single most pressing issues in healthcare (aka dumpster fire), which is the financialization of medicine and the need for CMOs to advocate for patients and communities.

The Fire Chief: The Chief Medical Officer Podcast
If you are a CMO in health care, this is the podcast for you. Every day there is a fire burning in health care. Oftentimes, it is the CMO that has to face the flames. Want to know what type of heat CMOs deal with on a regular basis? What unexpected dumpster fires have they encountered along the way? How they ascended into the toughest (& best!) job in healthcare? What leadership skills have helped them along the way?
Tune in to The Fire Chief!

Your Host
Dr. Lee Scheinbart practiced Hematology/Oncology for over 20 years and after directing his local cancer institute, he went on to serve as VPMA and later CMO at Health First Hospitals in East Central Florida. Currently he serves as Chief Health Affairs Officer for the Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine. He is also Assistant Professor of Leadership Development at the College and the author of The CMO's Financial Primer, The Vital Handbook for Physician Executives. Dr. Scheinbart is also the Principal Instructor for the CMO Academy at the American Association for Physician Leadership.